QX65 Fully revealed

didn't see anywhere talk about the engine besides the HP, unless you are assuming that VC-turbo is like the altima type. and it was at the end of the article hahaha. guess people care about cargo space and tech more

Nissan is going all in on the VC turbo. I have that engine in an Altima in my family, and it's a lot of fun for what it is. It'll be interesting to see how it holds up over time, though, because the design couldn't be much more complex and has already been subject to a recall.

I agree that Infiniti buyers may be expecting a V6.

Just FYI, they stopped using the VC in the Altima -- too expensive, and low uptake.

Mazda is going to want that red back.

With the way all automakers are headed, I wouldn't have been surprised if it had a quad-turbo three-cylinder.

Supposedly Infiniti is planning to offer a v6 option starting the second model year of the vehicle 🤷‍♂️

Yet another crossover in a flooded 'me too' segment, no v6, their current iteration has had poor acceptance & sales

WT? were they thinking !! My prognosis is it's doomed right out of the gate ........................

I had a 2025 Rogue As a loner and when I was driving it, I was really impressed with the powertrain. More so than the QX55 as it felt like a sleeping dog.

The 9 speed in the Pathfinder/Qx60/QX65/Murano is the ZF 9 speed.

The 9 speed in the Z is the MB 9 speed. Expect to see that in the new Q50 next year too.

The VQ35 is coming back into the QX60 and into the QX65 next year.

On the GTR front, the R36 is keeping the 3.8 at least the Block, with new heads and rotating assembly and hybrid add on. They are going back to the Ring.

Report: Infiniti QX65 Getting V-6 Engine in Its Second Model Year https://share.google/nNCg4ZNtTxmWh4Slw

R36

Makes sense to keep the VR38 block. It’s proven and battle tested. Furthermore, .3 liters less displacement really wouldn’t do them any emissions or mileage favors to speak of. If they went VR35, they’d lose the mythos of the hand-built engine.

On the QX65 front, I figured they’d release it with the V6 (2027 MY) and the QX60 would follow with its 2027 MY release. Would have only been a few months of both vehicles not having parity w/r/t powertrain. But looks like that won’t happen until MY 2028, at which point the QX60 would be due for FMC, if we’re looking at the older 5-6 year release cycles.

I have read several articles mentioning the V6 is going to be an option for the 2nd model year. I dont want to stir any pots, but the recent changes or even talks of changes to the US emissions seems to be helping Nissan. They bet big on the VC turbo and it seems to not be working out as planned. I hope they take this chance to reset and put the VQ back into service for a few years. I think as enthusiasts we have a different mindset from the general car buying public, which is good and bad. Most people want a headache free appliance that will last 10+ years. I dont want to be labeled as that guy, but I belive this latest generation of engines is just not it anymore. Almost any manufacture you chose from we are buying mass produced race car tech at this point. The new Jeep 4cy turbo is a fantastic example for anyone who wants to check it out, but we have reached a point of diminishing returns. Nissan took a bold leap with the VC turbo engine and for what? In practical application the QX60 gained 2 mpg on the highway and lost 1 mpg in the city. At the cost of reliability and reputation alone i doubt it was worth it, let alone the R&D. I wish, at least in the US, hybrid wasn't seen as a nerdy/economy thing. It can serve multiple purposes and I cant wait until a manufacturer figures this out in the marketing department. Oddly enough I feel corvette is doing it better than anyone else right now. Most people just want their 5000lb mid-size SUV to be able to comfortably merge on a highway, i see 300hp being the reasonable target for that and Toyota has been doing it for a few years with the Rav 4 prime and Lexus TX550H. I hope Nissan's launch of the e-power hybrid system in the US goes well and turns the company around after a few years. Build and sell enough sentras and rogues to make the cars for enthusiasts again. Toyota showed it was possible and I belive Nissan can get there on a smaller scale. Step one, put a reliable, reasonablely efficient V6 back in your products to bridge the gap until e-power can take its place for the next generation. If along the way you manage to make a compact hybrid sport/sporty car, you can dominate a new niche market Honda somehow missed on with their new Prelude. Who wouldnt love to see Nissan come out over Honda after the failed merger? Petty, sure but a win would be well deserved.

eljoker said:

I'm wondering if they will end up doing the single head port design. Also wonder if they will still use a transaxle set up.

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Hmmm good question, it ultimately depends on the balance of the car front/rear and the performance of the electric motors in relation to the gas engine. Nissan could opt for an electric motor on every wheel and do some really cool things with torque vectoring at all 4 corners, but if I had to guess they'd have two independent axles with an E-axle for the front of the R36 and one for the rear as it would eliminate the secondary drive-shafts, reduce complexity, minimize parasitic loss and improve responsiveness and have the electric motors driving the front-wheels is ideal for regen while offering far more control of the cars front-end.

You sent me down a bit of a rabbit hole and JATCO just pulbished its technical review of some upcoming technology just day sago that they've been quietly showing off since last year. Granted it might not be for the next gen GT-R since the R35 doesn't even use a JATCO transmission, but this is exactly the type of development news I expect over the next year for development they'll be using in the R36.

twin_snails said:

Makes sense to keep the VR38 block. It’s proven and battle tested. Furthermore, .3 liters less displacement really wouldn’t do them any emissions or mileage favors to speak of. If they went VR35, they’d lose the mythos of the hand-built engine.

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While having a hand-built engine while a point of pride for the R35, the RB26 is just a legendary a motor and it wasn't hand built. If Nissan is to take any lesson from the R35 is that it can't have the same ballooning costs over time that the R35 did which cost about 120K for its final run or about 20-30K more than it did at launch once you factor in inflation.

TwistyMcWrench said:

I have read several articles mentioning the V6 is going to be an option for the 2nd model year. I dont want to stir any pots, but the recent changes or even talks of changes to the US emissions seems to be helping Nissan. They bet big on the VC turbo and it seems to not be working out as planned. I hope they take this chance to reset and put the VQ back into service for a few years.

I think as enthusiasts we have a different mindset from the general car buying public, which is good and bad. Most people want a headache free appliance that will last 10+ years. I dont want to be labeled as that guy, but I belive this latest generation of engines is just not it anymore. Almost any manufacture you chose from we are buying mass produced race car tech at this point. The new Jeep 4cy turbo is a fantastic example for anyone who wants to check it out, but we have reached a point of diminishing returns. Nissan took a bold leap with the VC turbo engine and for what? In practical application the QX60 gained 2 mpg on the highway and lost 1 mpg in the city.

At the cost of reliability and reputation alone i doubt it was worth it, let alone the R&D. I wish, at least in the US, hybrid wasn't seen as a nerdy/economy thing. It can serve multiple purposes and I cant wait until a manufacturer figures this out in the marketing department. Oddly enough I feel corvette is doing it better than anyone else right now. Most people just want their 5000lb mid-size SUV to be able to comfortably merge on a highway, i see 300hp being the reasonable target for that and Toyota has been doing it for a few years with the Rav 4 prime and Lexus TX550H.

I hope Nissan's launch of the e-power hybrid system in the US goes well and turns the company around after a few years. Build and sell enough sentras and rogues to make the cars for enthusiasts again. Toyota showed it was possible and I belive Nissan can get there on a smaller scale. Step one, put a reliable, reasonablely efficient V6 back in your products to bridge the gap until e-power can take its place for the next generation. If along the way you manage to make a compact hybrid sport/sporty car, you can dominate a new niche market Honda somehow missed on with their new Prelude. Who wouldnt love to see Nissan come out over Honda after the failed merger? Petty, sure but a win would be well deserved.

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Important to remember that the US isn't Nissan's only market and the current direction of US Emissions is a fickle thing based on whomever is in office and geo-politics at any given moment and with prices the way they are things are only going to back towards hybrids and fuel efficient options.

As for the marketing aspect of things I don't recall anyone ever complaining about the 918 being a hybrid or the NSX for that matter (it not having a V8 yes), so long as Nissan can deliver a motor that has personality while being paired with a Hybrid they got a shot.

But for sure the VC Turbo hasn't panned out as well for Nissan as they likely would have hopped nor is it delivering the gains they probably wanted, but Nissan despite its recent failings with new technology is often the one who popurlzies trends in the industry and a VC-Turbo motor while a lack luster engine on its own might make for a potent generator for an E-powered car. There is still a lot of value in the R&D put into developing an engine like that.

I just want to point out that if the next Q50 AWD comes with a MB transmission, I will pass on it unless they heavily tune that junk and even then I might consider it. I would rather have a ZF or JATCO for that matter.